Aug. 22, 2025
Lessons from Multi-Million-Dollar Launches with Jason Fladlien and Joe Polish
Jason Fladlien reveals how to sell ethically, scale globally, and create transformations that last long after the transaction.
Here’s a glance at what you’ll discover in this episode:
- The Real Reason People Don’t Buy (Even When They Should): Jason’s insight into why your most qualified prospects hesitate—and how to ethically help them say yes without pressure or manipulation
- Why the Best Sales Happen After Someone Says No: How Jason leveraged follow-ups in his own business that others neglect—and why staying with a customer longer than anyone else wins the sale
- The Fear Beneath Every Objection: Jason breaks down every “I can’t” into one universal truth—and how to reframe fear of failure, embarrassment, and loss into decisive action
- How to Sell Without a Script (and Still Outsell the Scripted Pros): Jason’s technique for closing 15 hours of sales without remembering what he said...and why people begged to see his pitch again after the sale
- Why Buyers Felt Robbed When Jason’s Closes Were Edited Out of the Replay (And the surprising lesson it reveals about turning your pitch into pure value)
- The Offer That Requires the Least Selling Wins: Jason’s mantra for stacking the deck in your favor before a pitch even begins
- Delay the Pitch, Double the Profits: Why Jason front-loads every offer with education, transformation, and trust—and how a 1.5% conversion once earned over $11 million in his own launch
- Why the Best Sales Calls Don’t Sound Like Sales Calls: The surprising power of staying on the line longer than anyone else—because most breakthroughs don’t happen in minute 20, they happen in hour 3
- Your Audience Has Never Heard Your “I Have a Dream” Speech: The tragic reason your best prospects keep buying from second-rate competitors—and the one soft skill Jason says you must master to finally earn their trust
- Selling to Save Lives (Literally): What a brain cancer diagnosis taught Jason about the most powerful way to sell to those who need hope more than hype
- Young, Broke, and Unstoppable: Jason’s advice to young people and new entrepreneurs on how to trade creature comforts for world-class skills, and why attitude (not experience) gets you hired
- How Jason Went from $12 an Hour to $400 an Hour: His personal story of painting houses in Iowa to becoming a “market whisperer” on webinars
- How to Sell to the Affluent: The behind-the-scenes story of how Jason and Joe closed nearly every call by NOT trying to close
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Show Notes
Selling After “No”
- Why most selling happens after someone says no.
- The real definition of objections: fear of loss or identity disruption.
- The power of staying with people longer than anyone else until they run out of reasons to resist.
Finding the Heartbeat of the Market
- How Jason turned $200/hour webinars in small-town Iowa into 8-figure launch frameworks.
- Why understanding the “heartbeat” of your market is worth billions.
- The compounding effect of even small increases in conversion (1.5% → 1.7%).
Ethical Persuasion vs. Pressure Selling
- Why selling is service when it’s directed at qualified, right-fit customers.
- How pre-suasion, education, and transformation-before-transaction shift selling from manipulation to influence.
- Why saying no should be more expensive than saying yes—for the right prospects only.
Power in Partnerships
- The story of Zoom hiring Jason to teach webinars—the only marketer they’ve ever brought in.
- Behind the scenes with Hormozi’s $100M Leads and Gadzhi’s half-million-person challenge.
- Joe & Jason co-selling Genius Network®, including the famous call with a prospect battling brain cancer.
Knowing Who Not to Sell
- The dangers of pushing sales on unqualified buyers.
- How disqualification protects both reputation and the client’s future.
- Why saying “no” to the wrong client is just as valuable as closing the right one.
Lessons in Persistence
- How Jason built his skills by answering every objection live—hour after hour.
- Why reps matter more than polish: selling to dozens each week sharpened instincts that no book could.
- Building teams (“copy cubs”) to systemize instinctive closes into frameworks others can repeat.
Human Dynamics of Selling
- Why fear, shame, and identity blocks are at the root of most objections.
- How empathy and staying power earn prospects’ trust to reveal the real issue.
- The role of character and attitude over technical skills when hiring or building teams.
Future-Proofing Through Service
- The best sales letter is a really good product—and a transformative experience.
- Why the selling experience itself can be so valuable that customers want to relive it.
- How young entrepreneurs can fast-track wisdom by combining their energy with mentors’ hard-earned lessons.
Resources
- 📘 Influence & Pre-Suasion by Dr. Robert Cialdini
- 📘One to Many: The Secret to Webinar Success by Jason Fladlien
- 🌐 Genius Network®
- ❤️ Genius Recovery
- 🎯 Kekich Credos
- 🌐 Jason Fladlien